Comments on: Eris Conjunct the USA Chiron: Irritating Old Wounds http://www.daykeeperjournal.com/2009/11/eris-conjunct-usa-chiron/ astrology, consciousnes and transformation Sat, 31 Jul 2010 05:54:17 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Kerry http://www.daykeeperjournal.com/2009/11/eris-conjunct-usa-chiron/comment-page-1/#comment-62 Kerry Sat, 28 Nov 2009 01:36:05 +0000 http://www.daykeeperjournal.com/newdk/?p=207#comment-62 Wow...seems you all have been reading and watching something other than what I and many many others were witnessing during the primaries...this is not the person or the party you all seem to think it is... why was there NO discussion of the healing of the feminine in this article..women namely Hillary and those men and women who supported her were treated with such animosity during the primaries and after...I supported him briefly until I watched just what he and his team were doing...taking her ideas directly from her website and changing just a few words and passing them off as their own. Did you realize that there is a youtube of the voter fraud and intimidation during the caucuses...that pelosi paid out tens of thousands of dollars from her PAC to delegates to switch there votes from Hillary to obama? The list was posted during the primaries...and that the dem party had said that Hillary will have nothing to do at this convention..that the ONLY reason there was a role call vote for the WOMAN who had garnered the most votes of any previous dem candidate in history ...that the roll call vote happened at all was because of another WOMAN ...a law professor from Georgetown Unitversity who along with a friend of hers started The Denver Group...and that nancy pelosi continously made them jump thru all kinds of hoops just so that the 18+ million plus who supported her would have their voice heard...that many states broke their own laws by having their delegates vote for obama instead of following the will of the people of the state...please there was so much that went on that it seems you are not aware of ..or would refuse to believe anyway...that it is distressing and disturbing to see the support for what this man and the dem party did not just to the canididate who actually did win the primaries..but to the 18 million+ who voted for her and to the rest of the country...wounds are far from healing ..in fact they are deepening...the lies have really been incredible..as for the healthcare plan..it has only 38% approval ..will cost well over 1.8 trillion dollars..and still will leave 24 million uninsured by 2019...have you read it..I work in the field..$500 billion will be stripped away from medicare...the other $500 billion will come from increased taxes...as well as taxing payroll benefits...for those working in he hc field...with hospitals taking in less monies from the gov't (apparently already agreed upon) which will mean lowered salaries for hosp workers...along with higher taxes...both payroll and otherwise..just how much do you think will be left for people to actually live on...nurses...rehab ...etc... really I do wish that folks would pay as close attention to what really went on than what they think went on...the msm...? obama's websites...really...He is uniting people..just not necessarily in hte way in which you might think...right now at least %52 of this country are uniting...against him and his ideas..we are being led by the people who have the lowest approval ratings...pelosi..28%..obama...48% (lowest of any pres at this point in their term..even bush...of whom I was not a supporter) not exactly just what reid's approval numbers are..and as for biden..we don't hear a whole lot from him have you noticed...because when he does speak he'll actually slip and say something that just validates what many of us already know..that we have incompetence in the White House... since when do we bow..we stand as EQUALS..remember America is also feminine...being run by an incredibly abusive team right now...abusive to it's own family..this is truly a problem for many of us. Me I wonder why this country is seemingly afraid of it's own power...for three elections now we have been run by mediocrity...when this time around we actually could have had the best..the smartest...and the one who lead from the heart ..I watched as people around her began to feel sense of pride and self respect..i watched their chests begin to rise..an opening of the heart chakra...have not been seeing that now...ask her any question..she can and will answer it easily and fully without notes... so many from all parties were ready to vote for her...yet we never had the chance to tap into our power in a dignified manner...to use it wisely rather than to do so as was done under the bush admin and now it's incredibly passive...obviously I'm incredibly angry ..and even angrier that apparently most astrologers have been watching the stars rather than the country...hopefully many might change their approach...I was a lifelong dem left the party years ago when they failed to stand up to the bush admin...yet Hllary did...and she did so from the Senate Floor..in a speech..when she gave the Senate dems the what for for not doing so....but I suppose none of you watched that either. There were also articles written about how the obama team was in fact using mind control during his speeches...I watched one on youtube and saw exactly what it was he was doing... Yep ..I have to say the view is very very different from the middle...regardless of what your stars say. Just think what you would have been writing about had Hillary who had many plans to get this county back up and running ..but not just her..even McCain...we knew that he and HRC we/are friends..and that she would have had his ear while in office... One last thought..how did you all vote..did you vote hating all things republican..because by doing so..you have put hatred in the vortex of the oval office...me I voted from a perspective of Love...of LOVING this country and of everything positive about her. When will you? And when will you write on that..what would be the perspective on that? Right now we have a POTUS who has not said ONE positive of loving thing about this country...not one...but then there are many of us who knew he wouldn't. Really is saddening....really is...the people of this country truly deserve better. Wow…seems you all have been reading and watching something other than what I and many many others were witnessing during the primaries…this is not the person or the party you all seem to think it is… why was there NO discussion of the healing of the feminine in this article..women namely Hillary and those men and women who supported her were treated with such animosity during the primaries and after…I supported him briefly until I watched just what he and his team were doing…taking her ideas directly from her website and changing just a few words and passing them off as their own. Did you realize that there is a youtube of the voter fraud and intimidation during the caucuses…that pelosi paid out tens of thousands of dollars from her PAC to delegates to switch there votes from Hillary to obama? The list was posted during the primaries…and that the dem party had said that Hillary will have nothing to do at this convention..that the ONLY reason there was a role call vote for the WOMAN who had garnered the most votes of any previous dem candidate in history …that the roll call vote happened at all was because of another WOMAN …a law professor from Georgetown Unitversity who along with a friend of hers started The Denver Group…and that nancy pelosi continously made them jump thru all kinds of hoops just so that the 18+ million plus who supported her would have their voice heard…that many states broke their own laws by having their delegates vote for obama instead of following the will of the people of the state…please there was so much that went on that it seems you are not aware of ..or would refuse to believe anyway…that it is distressing and disturbing to see the support for what this man and the dem party did not just to the canididate who actually did win the primaries..but to the 18 million+ who voted for her and to the rest of the country…wounds are far from healing ..in fact they are deepening…the lies have really been incredible..as for the healthcare plan..it has only 38% approval ..will cost well over 1.8 trillion dollars..and still will leave 24 million uninsured by 2019…have you read it..I work in the field..$500 billion will be stripped away from medicare…the other $500 billion will come from increased taxes…as well as taxing payroll benefits…for those working in he hc field…with hospitals taking in less monies from the gov’t (apparently already agreed upon) which will mean lowered salaries for hosp workers…along with higher taxes…both payroll and otherwise..just how much do you think will be left for people to actually live on…nurses…rehab …etc… really I do wish that folks would pay as close attention to what really went on than what they think went on…the msm…? obama’s websites…really…He is uniting people..just not necessarily in hte way in which you might think…right now at least %52 of this country are uniting…against him and his ideas..we are being led by the people who have the lowest approval ratings…pelosi..28%..obama…48% (lowest of any pres at this point in their term..even bush…of whom I was not a supporter) not exactly just what reid’s approval numbers are..and as for biden..we don’t hear a whole lot from him have you noticed…because when he does speak he’ll actually slip and say something that just validates what many of us already know..that we have incompetence in the White House… since when do we bow..we stand as EQUALS..remember America is also feminine…being run by an incredibly abusive team right now…abusive to it’s own family..this is truly a problem for many of us.
Me I wonder why this country is seemingly afraid of it’s own power…for three elections now we have been run by mediocrity…when this time around we actually could have had the best..the smartest…and the one who lead from the heart ..I watched as people around her began to feel sense of pride and self respect..i watched their chests begin to rise..an opening of the heart chakra…have not been seeing that now…ask her any question..she can and will answer it easily and fully without notes… so many from all parties were ready to vote for her…yet we never had the chance to tap into our power in a dignified manner…to use it wisely rather than to do so as was done under the bush admin and now it’s incredibly passive…obviously I’m incredibly angry ..and even angrier that apparently most astrologers have been watching the stars rather than the country…hopefully many might change their approach…I was a lifelong dem left the party years ago when they failed to stand up to the bush admin…yet Hllary did…and she did so from the Senate Floor..in a speech..when she gave the Senate dems the what for for not doing so….but I suppose none of you watched that either.
There were also articles written about how the obama team was in fact using mind control during his speeches…I watched one on youtube and saw exactly what it was he was doing…
Yep ..I have to say the view is very very different from the middle…regardless of what your stars say. Just think what you would have been writing about had Hillary who had many plans to get this county back up and running ..but not just her..even McCain…we knew that he and HRC we/are friends..and that she would have had his ear while in office…
One last thought..how did you all vote..did you vote hating all things republican..because by doing so..you have put hatred in the vortex of the oval office…me I voted from a perspective of Love…of LOVING this country and of everything positive about her. When will you? And when will you write on that..what would be the perspective on that? Right now we have a POTUS who has not said ONE positive of loving thing about this country…not one…but then there are many of us who knew he wouldn’t. Really is saddening….really is…the people of this country truly deserve better.

]]> By: Kaye http://www.daykeeperjournal.com/2009/11/eris-conjunct-usa-chiron/comment-page-1/#comment-53 Kaye Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:31:57 +0000 http://www.daykeeperjournal.com/newdk/?p=207#comment-53 Great analysis, as usual! According to the 'at-a-glance-biorhythmcharacter analysis, Obama is a humanitarian leader type, has lots of energy and self confidence, and 'gets the whole picture' in a situation. He is no martyr, is a negotiator, a communicator, reaches out beyond his family and friends, and in my estimation, is truly meant for this time in our history. As is Biden, who is very similar to him. They can communicate, they can 'hear' each other....I hope we don't go thru another era of assassinations...... Great analysis, as usual! According to the ‘at-a-glance-biorhythmcharacter analysis, Obama is a humanitarian leader type, has lots of energy and self confidence, and ‘gets the whole picture’ in a situation. He is no martyr, is a negotiator, a communicator, reaches out beyond his family and friends, and in my estimation, is truly meant for this time in our history. As is Biden, who is very similar to him. They can communicate, they can ‘hear’ each other….I hope we don’t go thru another era of assassinations……

]]> By: anya taylor http://www.daykeeperjournal.com/2009/11/eris-conjunct-usa-chiron/comment-page-1/#comment-46 anya taylor Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:06:08 +0000 http://www.daykeeperjournal.com/newdk/?p=207#comment-46 Wow! What an illuminating article. Your careful study and analysis on Chiron and Saturn and the whole Eris thing (I never knew `til now the pernicious qualities of)+ the whole affiliation with Mars. Yikes! You have hit the nail on the head mister. I too wonder what Betty wonders though. My utopian positive side says `yes we can' (no pun intended). We are in the middle or actually just past it, of a big shift. I am hoping that that the collective will start self-educating on the transcendent opportunities evolving as we reach 2012 and then 2022. There is so much work to be done! We have to work on ourselves first so that we actually are able to "be the change we want to see in the world" (Mahatma Ghandi) This is not the happiest period in my life. I need to make the transformation and there is some cog stuck in the wheel somewhere within me that keeps me from making it happen. This seems to be the case with the "area of race relations" What is going on? Why does it still exist? Wow! What an illuminating article. Your careful study and analysis on Chiron and Saturn and the whole Eris thing (I never knew `til now the pernicious qualities of)+ the whole affiliation with Mars. Yikes!
You have hit the nail on the head mister. I too wonder what Betty wonders though. My utopian positive side says `yes we can’ (no pun intended). We are in the middle or actually just past it, of a big shift. I am hoping that that the collective will start self-educating on the transcendent opportunities evolving as we reach 2012 and then 2022. There is so much work to be done! We have to work on ourselves first so that we actually are able to “be the change we want to see in the world” (Mahatma Ghandi) This is not the happiest period in my life. I need to make the transformation and there is some cog stuck in the wheel somewhere within me that keeps me from making it happen. This seems to be the case with the “area of race relations” What is going on? Why does it still exist?

]]> By: alex miller http://www.daykeeperjournal.com/2009/11/eris-conjunct-usa-chiron/comment-page-1/#comment-30 alex miller Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:17:49 +0000 http://www.daykeeperjournal.com/newdk/?p=207#comment-30 hi, betty! thanks for your input; glad you enjoy the articles. to answer your question, at this point, i don't know what to think. things surely don't feel very hopeful, nor do i see much change yet. i was never an obama 'true believer,' but he seems more and more just a typical politician to me, which is disappointing, but realistic. i mean, what did we really expect, on a practical level? in any event, it will take more than his performance in the white house to heal what ails us, particularly in the area of race relations. alex hi, betty!

thanks for your input; glad you enjoy the articles. to answer your question, at this point, i don’t know what to think. things surely don’t feel very hopeful, nor do i see much change yet. i was never an obama ‘true believer,’ but he seems more and more just a typical politician to me, which is disappointing, but realistic. i mean, what did we really expect, on a practical level? in any event, it will take more than his performance in the white house to heal what ails us, particularly in the area of race relations.

alex

]]> By: Betty Taylor http://www.daykeeperjournal.com/2009/11/eris-conjunct-usa-chiron/comment-page-1/#comment-9 Betty Taylor Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:02:52 +0000 http://www.daykeeperjournal.com/newdk/?p=207#comment-9 Hello Alex, First of all, I want to tell you how much I enjoy your thoughtful, well researched articles (all of them). I have a question regarding this article. What do you think? Do you believe that this chance for healing is lost or do you think this "soul sick nation" can be healed? The forces of darkness are very strong now. Thanks for your time and consideration. Betty Hello Alex,
First of all, I want to tell you how much I enjoy your thoughtful, well researched articles (all of them).
I have a question regarding this article. What do you think? Do you believe that this chance for healing is lost or do you think this “soul sick nation” can be healed? The forces of darkness are very strong now.
Thanks for your time and consideration.
Betty

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